The Whale Oil site has been off-line following a cyber attack and he has received threats against himself and his family on social media.
Cameron Slater’s is the most widely read blog in the country and almost certainly the most inflammatory.
He upsets and enrages people.
His posts can be irrational and he sometimes uses a scatter gun approach which hits the innocent as well as the guilty.
Nothing he writes justifies threats to his life and the safety of his family.
The Facebook post I saw is probably actionable and definitely stupid.
It gives him more publicity and will increase readership which will upset and enrage the people attacking him even more.
I saw those comments too.
They have crossed the line of criminality to my untutored eye.
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I would think that there are more inflammatory blogs- Martyn Bradbury’s “Tumeke!” and Redbaiter’s TruBlue for instance.
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Slater said what!!?
He’s now calling all West Coaster’s names now, I see.
Right-Wing Poster Boy who Gets Quoted Here on Homepaddock..
Wholesome entertainment for the whole family,
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Not quite Robert he targeted it a little tighter than your airbrushed great saviour with her outburst when she added inbred and took aim at the whole electorate.
150 KPH fleeing from the police and I understand alcohol involved.
Great mate for a possibly still grieving brother of a mine casualty, I considered Slater could have been harsher.
Nice though that the socialist ferals have no problem with the clear attack on free speech and personal freedom to express them.
How about some rwnj takes down Frog blog and/or your must read effort, makes threats to block your daughter and threatens to kill you.
Would that be OK with you
We have exchanged some comment in passionate debate that could indicate dislike but always from my POV disagreement is it and it stays on the blog.
The transfer of disagreement distaste, disgust or whatever on a blog to what is alleged to have been expressed on social media, is in a word, dam scary.
Many of us are writing under our real names as you and our host do, My ID and location is no state secret but that my sometimes provocative and edgy writing could impinge on my wife is very dam scary and IMHO completely beyond the pale.
Hatred is so ugly
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Deserving of a threat of his 15yo daughter being but on the block Robert? I presume you know what that phrase means.
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I didn’t say he’s deserving of anything, Keeping Stock, threats or otherwise. As usual, you swing in to the fray without thinking.
I asked, he said what!!?.
You regularly feature Slater’s opinions on your blog.
That’s something a Christian might like to reconsider in light of the sorts of things Slater says. Ele too, might think twice about that.
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But do you denounce the threats Robert, or are you quietly chuckling to yourself that he had them coming?
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I predict Robert will answer this with a question.
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You do the denouncing, Keeping Stock – it’s your stock and trade.
I’m expressing my disquiet about Slater saying such a thing of someone who had been killed. As if his family hasn’t suffered enough! That sort of behaviour sickens most people. Relying on Slater to provide your blog with its most salacious gossip is what I’m also questioning.
Mind the company you keep, that’s what I say and I bet Jesus would have had something to say about that also.
As to threats, I don’t support anyone making them.
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Tracey – wrong.
You predicting a National win as well. Go on, you’re on a roll.
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I think we have common ground. The post was at the very least insensitive – I would never write nor condone a post like that.
Regardless of what people write threats to them and their family are wrong.
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Ele – you wrote,
“Nothing he writes justifies threats to his life and the safety of his family.”
I’d add,
“Something he wrote provoked threats to his life and the safety of his family”.
You’re all about personal responsibility, aren’t you?
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Sigh – which bit of both are wrong don’t you understand?
He provoked the threats but that doesn’t make them right.
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No need for sighing, Ele. I understand full-well what’s right and what’s wrong in this case. Tell me though, why did you title your post, “Blogger faces death and rape threats”, rather than, “Blogger provokes threats with disgraceful comment”?
That’s what irks me. The position you’ve taken seems in sympathy with Slater, rather than the upset families, who after all, didn’t invite Slater’s insults. Slater chose his action. You are still about freedom of choice and accepting the consequence of one’s actions, aren’t you? Sigh!
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The post isn’t about the families who have every reason to be upset.
It’s about a blog post ,for which I make no excuses and agree was wrong, and the reaction to it.
If valuables were stolen after I left them in full sight in my car and didn’t lock it I’d be stupid but it wouldn’t excuse the theft.
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“The post isn’t about the families…”
That’s my point. Your post is expressing tacit sympathy with Slater.
As ye sow, so shall
yehe reap.Regarding your ‘stolen valuables’ (wasn’t there a stolen laptop in your history? Was this the case with that?) you’d be best to ask your insurance company for their ruling on leaving valuables in full sight in an unlocked vehicle. Good luck with that.
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You Robert Guyton are living proof that Green supporters are singularly lacking in intelligence or any ability for logical reasoning.
There is no justification for threatening to tie up an underage girl and gang rape her in retribution for the sins of her father, real or imagined.
Such threats are despicable
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I could have been a lot stronger than “He upsets and enrages people.
His posts can be irrational and he sometimes uses a scatter gun approach which hits the innocent as well as the guilty.”
But my post wasn’t about his post it was about the reaction to it. Of course the reaction was prompted by the post – and I wasn’t and won’t make excuses for it.
But no matter how bad the post it still didn’t justify the threats.
Insurance companies might not pay out if you’ve been careless but that still doesn’t make theft any less a crime.
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yes HP .. double sigh
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nooooooooo Andrei, the problem with bOb is that he smarter than everybody else and frets, that right, FRETS with rage that the erst of us can’t see it.
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I have no idea why some people hate others not using their real names on blogs like this .. we all know there are people who will use what others say against them in a nasty way .. I am also easy to “hunt down” which doesn’t worry me but I am concerned that someone would try.
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Robert, I just can’t believe your view that what insurance policies do or do not cover sets some kind moral benchmark. That is a very extreme right-wing view indeed.
Insurance policies don’t cover goods that are left out for the taking. But nor do insurance companies pass a moral position on it ether. That is not their role. They don’t call it “stupid” just because their policies don’t cover that situation. I’d say they normally call it “bad luck”.
It is a person’s free choice to take risk and often there is no consequence let alone a severe one. I don’t know how many times I have accidentally left my car unlocked in the city and come back to everything still there. Once it was my entire Christmas shopping. In fact, I have never been robbed, despite many opportunities to have been.
Now if I carelessly didn’t lock the car outside my home one evening and someone got in and was stealing my laptop during which I interrupted them and got beaten to a pulp, the insurance company might not pay out on the stolen laptop, but could you ever say that the beating was deserved?
In your thinking it seems that provoking an attack justifies whatever consequence comes. I cannot agree. Once can never anticipate, with any accuracy, the most extreme of possible outcomes.
God help you if you consider that the outcomes of insurance claims are the basis, or part thereof, for some sort of moral compass.
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I’m not surprised you don’t believe that that is my view.
It isn’t.
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