GSCB Bill explained


In between interruptions and attempted justifications from John Campbell, Prime Minister John Key explained the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) Amendment Bill.

Do people care?

“We got 124 submissions on the GCSB bill, and 30,000 on snapper,” he says.

Mr Key says he spends a lot of time touring the country, but the GCSB bill is not a topic that comes up in his discussions.

“People do not raise GCSB. I have public meetings, I have question sessions at everything I do. I probably have half a dozen meetings a day with public engaging with people…People don’t raise this issue,” he tells Campbell Live. . .

Whether or not people care, doesn’t change the facts:

*  The GCSB will need to obtain a warrant from the Commissioner of High Security Warrants – a retired court judge appointed by Mr Key.

* The surveillance of] Kim Dotcom was illegal under the old law and it’s illegal under the new law.

* Mr Key says some discussion around the bill has been misrepresented, and the organisation will not be able to spy on New Zealanders.

* the original problems with the GCSB stem from a section passed by the Labour Government in 2003.

Another couple of points from the video (at about 18:15)
* The only legal things they [GCSB] can do is provide assistance, and they do that about nine times a year.
* Anything else they might do in cyber searches would require a warrant, they wouldn’t have access to content and it would be a bit like virus protection.
Some other points not covered in the interview:

The Bill clarifies the law that the GCSB operates under.

* The GCSB had been assisting other agencies like the NZSIS, Defence and Police for years, under the previous Labour Government as well as under the National-led Government. The Labour administration knew about this activity and signed off on it.

* The GCSB believed that it was operating within the law at all times, but it is now clear that there are difficulties in interpretation in the law.

* The Prime Minister is responsible for for national security and takes it seriously. That’s why the Government is moving to clarify the law so that it is legally clear the GCSB can assist other agencies, as it has done for years.

This Bill won’t change what can be done, the SIS can do anything the Bill would permit the GCSB to do.

This isn’t a debate about whether a particular New Zealander will have intelligence gathered about them and about their activities.

It will happen with appropriate oversight and safeguards.

The question is whether the Security Intelligence Service (SIS) does it, or if GCSB does it under a warrant gained by the SIS.

The GCSB has the capability to do it now, the SIS doesn’t. If the Bill isn’t enacted what would have been done by the GCSB will be done by the SIS, more expensively.

I thought the Prime Minister won the debate, so did Gravedodger who reviews the interview here.

But it’s not only those of us in the blue corner who weren’t impressed with the interviewing.

Whaleoil found this on Twitter:

@JohnJCampbell Raving is not interviewing, John. A graceless and embarrassing performance. This from your greatest fan. Brian





Even benign environments need safeguards


The ODT says:

There cannot be many people in New Zealand not concerned over this week’s revelations of illegal spying by the Government Communications and Security Bureau.

There cannot be many not worried about the Government’s subsequent announcement it will make sweeping changes to laws governing that agency which will change its mandate and make it legal to spy on New Zealanders. . . .

If that’s the case, I’m one of the few.

I’m not particularly concerned about the revelations of illegal spying nor worried about the prospect of change.

The illegality appears to be technical – a result of badly drafted law which didn’t do as it was intended to do and Prime Minister John Key has announced proposals to tidy that up:

“The GCSB plays a vital role in protecting the security and safety of New Zealanders,” says Mr Key.

“It has been making, and will continue to make, a significant contribution to our national security.

“However, Ms Kitteridge’s review shows difficulties of legal interpretation around the GCSB Act as well as compliance and cultural issues within GCSB.

“As a result of this, the GCSB has ceased providing support to agencies like the NZSIS and Police as it used to do and had done for more than a decade.

“It is now the responsible thing to do to clarify the legislation, to make it clear the GCSB can provide support to agencies which are undertaking their lawful duties.

“To do anything less would be to leave our national security open to threat, and as Prime Minister I am simply not willing to do that. To do nothing would be an easy course of action politically, but it would be an irresponsible one.”

Mr Key says the proposed changes to the GCSB Act will clarify its long-standing practices, so the GCSB can provide assistance to other agencies, subject to conditions and oversight.

“The clarification of the GCSB’s long-standing practices was also the purpose of the 2003 legislation:

“Section 3 of that Act made it clear that its purpose was to ‘continue the GCSB and establish it as a department of state.’

“And when the Act was passed in 2003, this assistance had actually already been occurring.”

GCSB Act proposed changes

At a high level, GCSB will retain its three main functions. These are:

  • Information assurance and cyber security
  • Foreign intelligence; and
  • Cooperation assistance to other agencies.

However, these functions will be clarified and updated so that:

  • Information assurance and cyber security will include cooperation, advice and help to both public and private sector organisations;
  • Foreign intelligence will remain broadly as is; and
  • Cooperation to assist other entities such as the NZSIS, NZ Defence Force and Police will be clarified to include help in the performance of their lawful duties.

“With regards to the three main functions, the Act will be amended to make it clear the GCSB can use its powers when undertaking activities in all of these areas, subject to controls and conditions.

“We intend to make it clear the GCSB can undertake activities on behalf of other named agencieswhere those agencies can lawfully undertake those activities.

“This includes the other agencies’ lawful investigations of New Zealanders.

“Section 14, which prohibits activities involving New Zealanders, will be retained but will apply only to the foreign intelligence function of the GCSB, and not to the other two functions.

“This will allow the GCSB to provide essential support to specified agencies and to undertake important work with both public and private sector New Zealanders in the area of information assurance and cyber security.

“These changes will ensure the GCSB is on a sound footing to keep doing the job the Government expects it to do in the interests of New Zealanders,” says Mr Key.

The changes would also be subject to the enhanced oversight arrangements.

Oversight regime

A solid oversight regime will help build confidence and enhance public trust in intelligence agencies.

There are five key changes proposed to strengthen the oversight regime.

1: The pool of candidates who are able to perform the role of Inspector General will be widened, by removing the requirement that the person be a retired High Court judge. This will broaden the range of experience and capability available to the role. For example, Australia’s equivalent is a former ombudsman.

2: The Inspector General’s office will be made more proactive, taking it a step further from the role it currently has, which is more review-focused. The office would be able to undertake its own inquiries more easily, and it will be expected to specifically note publicly each year its view on whether or not the agencies it oversees are compliant with the law.

The Government will increase the scope of the Inspector General’s active review programme to include a much broader range of the agencies’ activities. This will have the effect of making the Inspector General’s role more proactive.

3: The resourcing and staffing of the Inspector General’s office will be increased, and the new role of Deputy Inspector General will be created.

4: Legislation will explicitly expand the Inspector General’s work programme, including compliance audits and greater reporting responsibilities. GCSB’s own quarterly reporting processes will be tightened up.

5: The Inspector General’s work will become more transparent, through greater availability of its reports and views publicly.

Mr Key says the changes will be made by amendments to the Inspector General of Intelligence and Security Act 1996.

Even if we lived in a benign environment, which we don’t we’d need safeguards. We can’t guarantee that everyone in New Zealand subscribes to a desire for peace, good will and democratic processes for change.

Someone has to be able to follow up justifiable suspicion that one or more persons could pose a threat to security.

We neither need nor can afford more than agency equipped to do what the GCSB does so it makes sense for it to be able to assist the SIS, Defence Force and police – with reasonable controls and conditions.

If I have any concerns at all about the issue it’s the media’s fascination with it.

I’m a political tragic and I’m not particularly interested in it so I doubt if many outside the Bowen Triangle are either.

I am however more interested in who leaked  Rebecca Kitteridge’s report.

Today, Mr Key also released the terms of reference into the unauthorised disclosure of Ms Kitteridge’s report.

The Commissioners of the report, DPMC Chief Executive Andrew Kibblewhite and GCSB Director Ian Fletcher, have appointed David Henry to conduct the inquiry.

Mr Henry is a former senior public servant who has held a number of positions, including Commissioner of Inland Revenue, Chief Electoral Officer, Electoral Commissioner and Commissioner on the Pike River Royal Commission.

He has also carried out a number of reviews and assignments in the public and private sectors.

Mr Key says it is anticipated Mr Henry will present his findings by the end of May.

The government must be able to trust everyone who works for it and who has access to reports like this.

The number of people in a position to leak the report is small and I can’t think of any motive for doing so but a political one.

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