I don’t know but Dr does

Some people are against all vaccines.

Some aren’t anti all vaccines but are hesitant about some or all of the ones that offer some protection from Covid-19.

I am not one of those. I’ve been vaccinated against a lot of diseases, most recently Covid-19.

I’ve had both jabs and will accept a booster if it’s offered in a few months time:
* To not die from Covid-19.
* To not clutter a hospital bed if I get sick.
* To hug my vaccinated family and friends.
* To be able to go to functions, events and places from which unvaccinated people will be restricted.
* To be free to travel domestically and internationally.
* To live my life.
* To know that children can go back to school, participate in cultural performances and play sport.
* For Covid-19 to be more of a minor nuisance than a potentially life-endangering threat.
* To live in a country where businesses and jobs won’t be at risk from repeated lockdowns.
* To play my part in protecting other people and the health system which is overwhelmed at the best of times.

I have read quite a lot about the vaccine but don’t have the scientific or medical knowledge to understand it all. I know even less about the vaccines I had as a child, the boosters I’ve had since, the ones I’ve had before travelling, and the medicines and anesthetics I’ve had from my GPs or in hospital.

I also don’t know what’s in over the counter medication I’ve taken for colds, ‘flu, allergies and other ailments, nor do I know what’s in processed food I buy or make-up I use.

There’s a lot of things I don’t know but I do know that life is short, very short, so I still want to do something other than staying cloistered at home or doing what staying in the farm-bubble allows. I still want to spend time with family and friends, travel and go to events without fear, find a little feeling of life “before”.

I’ve been vaccinated for mumps, measles, rubella, polio, tetanus and whooping cough.  More recently I’ve had boosters for some of those and had several other vaccines before I’ve travelled. I trusted the science for those and never had to suffer through or transmit any of the diseases from which they protected me.

Of course, those other vaccines have been around for a lot longer than the Covid-19 ones, but at some stage they were new and most people accepted the risk from taking them was less than the risk of becoming ill without their protection.

Yesterday morning I was on a Zoom call with a doctor in Houston who said Covid-19 is still raging in the USA and that children’s hospitals in particular are being overwhelmed. He said it was the unvaccinated who were most seriously ill.

That is the experience of  Dr Anita Sircar who is running out of compassion for the unvaccinated:

My patient sat at the edge of his bed gasping for air while he tried to tell me his story, pausing to catch his breath after each word. The plastic tubes delivering oxygen through his nose hardly seemed adequate to stop his chest from heaving. He looked exhausted.

He had tested positive for the coronavirus 10 days ago. He was under 50, mildly hypertensive but otherwise in good health. Eight days earlier he started coughing and having severe fatigue. His doctor started him on antibiotics. It did not work.

Fearing his symptoms were worsening, he started taking some hydroxychloroquine he had found on the internet. It did not work.

He was now experiencing shortness of breath while doing routine daily activities such as walking from his bedroom to the bathroom or putting on his shoes. He was a shell of his former self. He eventually made his way to a facility where he could receive monoclonal antibodies, a lab-produced transfusion that substitutes for the body’s own antibodies. It did not work.

He finally ended up in the ER with dangerously low oxygen levels, exceedingly high inflammatory markers and patchy areas of infection all over his lungs. Nothing had helped. He was getting worse. He could not breathe. His wife and two young children were at home, all infected with the virus. He and his wife had decided not to get vaccinated.

Last year, a case like this would have flattened me. I would have wrestled with the sadness and how unfair life was. Battled with the angst of how unlucky he was. This year, I struggled to find sympathy. It was August 2021, not 2020. The vaccine had been widely available for months in the U.S., free to anyone who wanted it, even offered in drugstores and supermarkets. Cutting-edge, revolutionary, mind-blowing, lifesaving vaccines were available where people shopped for groceries, and they still didn’t want them.

Outside his hospital door, I took a deep breath — battening down my anger and frustration — and went in. I had been working the COVID-19 units for 17 months straight, all day, every day. I had cared for hundreds of COVID patients. We all had, without being able to take breaks long enough to help us recover from this unending ordeal. Compassion fatigue was setting in. For those of us who hadn’t left after the hardest year of our professional lives, even hope was now in short supply.

Shouting through my N95 mask and the noise of the HEPA filter, I introduced myself. I calmly asked him why he decided not to get vaccinated.

“Well, I’m not an anti-vaxxer or anything. I was just waiting for the FDA to approve the vaccine first. I didn’t want to take anything experimental. I didn’t want to be the government’s guinea pig, and I don’t trust that it’s safe,” he said.

“Well,” I said, “I can pretty much guarantee we would have never met had you gotten vaccinated, because you would have never been hospitalized. All of our COVID units are full and every single patient in them is unvaccinated. Numbers don’t lie. The vaccines work.”

This was a common excuse people gave for not getting vaccinated, fearing the vaccine because the Food and Drug Administration had granted it only emergency use authorization so far, not permanent approval. Yet the treatments he had turned to — antibiotics, monoclonal antibodies and hydroxychloroquine — were considered experimental, with mixed evidence to support their use.

The only proven lifesaver we’ve had in this pandemic is a vaccine that many people don’t want. A vaccine we give away to other countries because supply overwhelms demand in the U.S. A vaccine people in other countries stand in line for hours to receive, if they can get it at all. . . 

The patient accepted medication that had only recently been approved by the FDA and used far less widely than Covid vaccines. It was too late. He died.

So will many more who choose not to be protected by the vaccine.

The burden of this pandemic now rests on the shoulders of the unvaccinated. On those who are eligible to get vaccinated but choose not to, a decision they defend by declaring, “Vaccination is a deeply personal choice.” But perhaps never in history has anyone’s personal choice affected the world as a whole as it does right now. When hundreds and thousands of people continue to die — when the most vulnerable members of society, our children, cannot be vaccinated — the luxury of choice ceases to exist.

If you believe the pandemic is almost over and I can ride it out, without getting vaccinated, you could not be more wrong. This virus will find you.

If you believe I’ll just wait until the FDA approves the vaccine first, you may not live to see the day.

If you believe if I get infected I’ll just go to the hospital and get treated, there is no guarantee we can save your life, nor even a promise we’ll have a bed for you.

If you believe I’m pregnant and I don’t want the vaccine to affect me, my baby or my future fertility, it matters little if you’re not alive to see your newborn.

If you believe I won’t get my children vaccinated because I don’t know what the long-term effects will be, it matters little if they don’t live long enough for you to find out.

If you believe I’ll just let everyone else get vaccinated around me so I don’t have to, there are 93 million eligible, unvaccinated people in the “herd” who think the same way you do and are getting in the way of ending this pandemic.

If you believe vaccinated people are getting infected anyway, so what’s the point?, the vaccine was built to prevent hospitalizations and deaths from severe illness. Instead of fatal pneumonia, those with breakthrough infections have a short, bad cold, so the vaccine has already proved itself. The vaccinated are not dying of COVID-19.

SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, has mutated countless times during this pandemic, adapting to survive. Stacked up against a human race that has resisted change every step of the way — including wearing masks, social distancing, quarantining and now refusing lifesaving vaccines — it is easy to see who will win this war if human behavior fails to change quickly.

The most effective thing you can do to protect yourself, your loved ones and the world is to GET VACCINATED.

And it will work.

Covid-19 vaccines offer pretty good protection and there’s plenty of evidence to show that people who are vaccinated are a lot less likely to be seriously ill if they do become infected.

No vaccine is 100% effective but the more people are vaccinated against Covid-19, the more protection we all have from lockdowns and an overburdened health system.

6 Responses to I don’t know but Dr does

  1. Tom Hunter's avatar Tom Hunter says:

    Good god, the LA Times just accused a Black conservative, Larry Elder, who is running for the California governorship, of being a White Supremacist.

    And in the face of this and countless other manufactured stories from the likes of the LA Times, you’re still willing to take their word on such a story as you quoted.

    My patient sat at the edge of his bed gasping for air while he tried to tell me his story, pausing to catch his breath after each word….

    Do you know how many such stories have crossed the US MSM in the last couple of months? All with the same breathless phrasing at the start, complete with the patient acknowledging their dreadful mistake. Their are copies of these cut-and-paste efforts from countless Twitter accounts. The fact that this has more verbiage around it does not compensate.

    Then there’s this from a supposed doctor:
    When hundreds and thousands of people continue to die — when the most vulnerable members of society, our children, cannot be vaccinated — the luxury of choice ceases to exist.

    That is just outrageous bullshit that should condemn the article aside from anything else. We’ve known for 18 months that the most vulnerable part of the population are those aged 70+ and those with other health problems. By contrast we know – even from the likes of the CDC in the USA – that children are the absolute least vulnerable part of the population.

    In any case, since it is the Black and Hispanic populations – including in the likes of LA – who are the most vaccine resistant, it’s going to be fun watching the likes of super-“Liberal”, Democrat-partisans like the LA Times pushing the guilt and shaming routine on them.

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  2. homepaddock's avatar homepaddock says:

    Tom – You might be right to mistrust the LA Times. But you might also have missed the bit where I wrote I spoke to a Dr in Houston yesterday. This is someone I know and trust, he said that Covid is spreading rapidly in the USA & it’s almost always the unvaccinated who need hospital care & are much more likely to die.

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  3. Tom Hunter's avatar Tom Hunter says:

    And the details of those unvaccinated? Are they, as they were in the first wave, primarily elderly and suffering from other medical problems? I agree that anybody 70+ or in poor health should get the vaccine.

    I absolutely do not agree that it is vital that everyone else does since they are no where near as vulnerable to sickness and death themselves and if they did spread it to elderly people the vaccine has a very high probability of preventing them getting sick and dying now too.

    Moreover I am appalled that you and other National Party people have fallen into the propaganda trap already being laid by the government and a fear-ridden public that will see the goalposts shifted away from government failures to making the unvaccinated the new Witches of NZ, with all that that implies.

    Ugly. Shameful. Horrifying. Disgusting. Gutless.

    I see also that your Zoom doctor is in a children’s hospital saying that it’s “overwhelmed”. I watch the stats at the CDC and have seen no data from them – and they collect it from across the USA – that the Delta variant is attacking kids. That’s not a surprise

    Finally, I see that LA TImes doctor has been quite to go-to person for the MSM: here she is in December 2020 on NBC talking about how their California hospitals are being overwhelmed. Sounds familiar.

    Good thing the state is overwhelming run by Democrats, with overwhelming Democrat voters. If they’re going to search for witches they’ll need to look in their own political ranks first.

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  4. Paranormal's avatar Paranormal says:

    Hi Ele, it’s been a while since I last commented here. Sadly the Covid lies have brought me out. You say you’re not sufficiently educated in science to know more about the vaccine. Well here’s someone who is; https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8bX-wFVBP94

    The important thing is we make informed choices. That’s what freedom and democracy are all about.

    I wish the best for you, your family and friends.

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  5. Tom Hunter's avatar Tom Hunter says:

    Here’s a classic example of this sort of MSM crap works, MSNBC: Florida doctors protest fatigue from the coronavirus surge

    Read how the media sausage is made:

    Cutting to the parking lot, Sanders looks very grave indeed, with a phalanx of doctors standing defiantly in the background. Accolades to Sanders, for staging himself in just the proper position for such an organic, spur-of-the-moment gathering. “That is truly reflective of the frustration that you see behind me. Some of the doctors gathering to tell people to ignore the nonsense you see at public meetings.”

    But..
    It turns out, what was being shown and hyped was not a doctors’ walkout. These were doctors who simply walked outside for a photo op. What had taken place was a staged presser, organized by Dr. Jamie Snarski, with whom Sanders spoke.

    As one person noted on Twitter:
    Everyone’s wielding this walkout as a club to hammer their own agenda. Ron DeSantis is a monster! No, doctors are heartless elites!

    The problem is, there was no walkout. No one walked off their jobs. There was just a press conference. My father-in-law was one of the doctors.

    The article I linked to which contains that MSNBC stuff, had this to say:
    You would think after a time, the savvy and urbane journalists in the media stratosphere would start to realize that when a story appears perfectly nestled in the narrative maybe that would be the time to step back and engage in some more diligent investigations. After all, it was barely a week ago when the press rushed out stories about Broward school teachers dying on the job, only to later learn classes had yet to begin, and their preferred target of Ron DeSantis was actually not to blame for killing them.

    The Narrative. And a narrative that’s all about supporting Left Wing causes and policies.

    Elle, I’m sorry to say that, based on your LA Times link, you are like a lot of other National Party tribal supporters that I encounter. You just don’t get how bad the MSM has become and you don’t understand that you are their enemy and they will not give you an even break.

    The National Party has got to figure out a way to get around these people.

    Oh, and the next time you’re in government, defund TVNZ, RNZ and NZ On Air. I’ve no doubt that the “conservatives” of National will recoil at such a drastic step, and the Liberal wing will sniff at such extremism, because they’re ok the same ideological direction of the likes of John Campbell.

    It wouldn’t solve all the media problems – private sector TV3 is at least as bad – but at least you’d put the bastards on notice that they can’t continue to get away with this sort of emotive, heart-wrenching propaganda. Plus taxpayers like me would at least have the satisfaction of not funding bastards who despise us.

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  6. homepaddock's avatar homepaddock says:

    Welcome back Paranormal. Haven’t had time to watch the video yet, but will do.

    Tom, would be quite happy to not fund TVNZ, RNZ & NZ on Air.

    https://www.uab.edu/news/health/item/12143-three-things-to-know-about-the-long-term-side-effects-of-covid-vaccines?

    ‘Vaccines, given in one- or two-shot doses, are very different from medicines that people take every day, potentially for years. And decades of vaccine history — plus data from more than a billion people who have received COVID vaccines starting last December — provide powerful proof that there is little chance that any new dangers will emerge from COVID vaccines. . .

    nlike many medications, which are taken daily, vaccines are generally one-and-done. Medicines you take every day can cause side effects that reveal themselves over time, including long-term problems as levels of the drug build up in the body over months and years.

    “Vaccines are just designed to deliver a payload and then are quickly eliminated by the body,” Goepfert said. “This is particularly true of the mRNA vaccines. mRNA degrades incredibly rapidly. You wouldn’t expect any of these vaccines to have any long-term side effects. And in fact, this has never occurred with any vaccine.”

    Vaccine side effects show up within weeks if at all
    That is not to say that there have never been safety issues with vaccines. But in each instance, these have appeared soon after widespread use of the vaccine began.

    “The side effects that we see occur early on, and that’s it,” Goepfert said. “In virtually all cases, vaccine side effects are seen within the first two months after rollout.” . . .’

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