Who’s the PCBU?

Just wondering: who is the PCBU (person in charge of a business or undertaking) when a stripper is performing for professional rugby players?

Is it the Chiefs rugby franchise, the person who hired the stripper, all the players who watched her, the stripper’s agent or the stripper herself?

Whoever it is, under the most recent health and safety legislation the PCBU is ultimately responsible for ensuring a workplace is safe but every worker also shares responsibility.

At risk of courting accusations of victim blaming, turning up alone to strip in front of a bunch of drunk young men isn’t taking your safety at work seriously.

It’s a bit like leaving the lights on and doors and windows open when you go out at night. It wouldn’t make it right for someone to burgle your house, but you would be at least naive if not foolhardy to make it so easy for them to do so.

This doesn’t make the reported behaviour of the audience acceptable. An invitation to look is not an invitation to touch and no always means no.

Also wondering: where does misogyny, (the dislike, hatred or mistrust of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women) begin?

Watching strippers doesn’t necessarily demonstrate hatred of women. But people don’t watch them in appreciation of their intellect or personality and I’m not sure if it’s possible to watch a striptease act without being guilty of contempt for and objectification of the stripper.

But where does that misogyny start – watching the stripper, ordering one, being an employer of or agent for one, or being one?

If you’re a stripper are you merely acting on your right to do what you want and earn some money in the process, or are you enabling misogynism?

Also wondering: is there more than a little irony that the story of the rugby players and the stripper coincide with another about actor Orlando Bloom paddle boarding naked and is that objectifying him?

10 Responses to Who’s the PCBU?

  1. Andrei says:

    I don’t think watching a stripper is misogyny, I think it is crass but not misogyny.

    The “art form” is sometimes called “Strip Tease” and its purpose is to inflame the baser instincts of males. that is what it is all about

    I don’t like it any more than you do but you need to recognize it for what it is


  2. Gravedodger says:

    I think AB coach Steve Hansen’s advice needs to be taken to kick ‘Mad Mondays’ to touch.
    Sad that the female spokes person for major sponsor Gallagher Industries is being pilloried for her entirely justifiable comments as to her company’s position, it is in fact a reasoned and considered response to what was rather boorish behaviour by the ordinary young men who were letting it all go after a long , tiring and successful season as tradition has seen for as long as rugby has been played.

    I always doubt the sincerity that accompanies the blood letting that accompanies any fall from grace by youth who as a one off reaction in the company of comrades have a bit of a do.
    Thinking Xavier Rush, Norm Hewitt, Zac Guildford, ordinary blokes exposed to riches and media created fame who fall.

    Have seen some perspective on the young woman involved and a quick read of her website suggests she was a contributor to her situation, @ whaleoil.co.nz


  3. blokeinauckland says:

    In the photographs I saw I didn’t see anyone throwing stones at Mr Bloom, pouring drinks over him or or trying to lick him.

    Obversely the stripper could be forgiven for expecting that an event with the Chiefs in attendance would be well organised and managed in keeping with the Chiefs public persona about professionalism and so on. In other words why couldn’t she expect to attend and go about her work safely and securely.


  4. TraceyS says:

    The ‘person’ who hired her services and controlled the event and the ‘person’ who employed her (which could be herself if she is self-employed) are both likely to have PCBU responsibilities. The event participants and the stripper herself (if she is an employee) have health and safety responsibilities but not as PCBUs.

    The event organisers should treat a contracted worker as their own employee in terms of health and safety. They are obliged to provide the same protection for her as for their direct employees regardless of what job she was doing.


  5. TraceyS says:

    “…turning up alone to strip in front of a bunch of drunk young men isn’t taking your safety at work seriously.”

    It could be done safely with proper controls in place. All PCBUs involved (and there is often more than one) need to work together to ensure that this happens. When hiring any contractors, a PCBU must ensure that the contractor has effective health and safety systems and processes, have identified the risks, and have put in place controls to manage risks. If they haven’t, it is no good saying “oh well that’s their problem” because it may well end up being your problem.


  6. TraceyS says:

    There was a case (last year I think – so under the old legislation) where a landowner was fined in conjunction with a logging accident. The landowner hired a contractor and asked to see their policies etc but did not take the extra step of checking that they actually used and complied with such. The contractor was also fined – a larger fine than the landowner’s. This clearly illustrates the mutually nonexclusive responsibilities of persons in positions of responsibility which existed well before the new H&S at Work Act.


  7. Paul Scott says:

    I said, @ .”You know I love you a lot, and especially since you take your clothes off and are not a feminatzi.”
    She said, “. I know, they have deficient chromosomes, do a lot of screaming hetero phobia, and anyway who cares about them “.


  8. Andrei says:

    Of course this is just a symptom of just how squalid post Christian New Zealand is

    I heard the “woman” herself admit to her own role in this and you’ld be appalled what she permitted to be done to her for $50

    What ever happened to feminine decorous women?


  9. TraceyS says:

    “What ever happened to feminine decorous women?”

    They’re still out there, Andrei. Some women want to strip off for a vocation, that’s their free choice, but it doesn’t have any bearing on the choices of others.

    Stereotyping is still a problem though. If only we could get away from that and treat each as the individual they were born as. This would include respecting the choices of some who would choose to take their clothes off for a living.


  10. Andrei says:

    Choices have consequences Tracey


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