Flag of the day

The Flag Consideration Panel is inviting people to upload designs for a new flag.

There’s more than 1500 in the gallery already.

This is FernZealand by Gerad Taylor:



12 Responses to Flag of the day

  1. Andrei says:

    Look over here at all the pretty flags that are on offer for you to choose from.

    That will distract our attention away from our Government bribing of rich Saudi Business men with our money

    That will stop you asking hard questions of why we are involving ourselves in the USA’s imperialistic wars that have left half the fucking world in chaos with millions of deaths.

    Yes lets talk about flags.

    As they say New Zealand is a nation of sheep


  2. J Bloggs says:

    Another nice stamp, but a flag….nope


  3. Dave Kennedy says:

    Andrei, while I wouldn’t express it quite the same way, my feelings are the same. I am still gutted about the unnecessary demise of Relationships Aotearoa when we are talking about an underfunded service being forced to the wall after cuts of around $4 million, while the Government is spending $26-30 million on this flag nonsense. Bizarre priorities! Despite accusations of not meeting contracts and poor financial management the cost of delivery for RA is cheaper than state managed services and when you hear the details of the crazy contracts not met it is eye rolling stuff.


  4. homepaddock says:

    Most of us are capable of thinking about more than one issue at a time.

    $26 million over a couple of years is a lot of money, but spread over more than a century which is the time the result of the referendum is likely to endure it’s not much.


  5. pdm says:

    Probably the best you have shown so far but it needs a Union Jack on it.


  6. Andrei says:

    but spread over more than a century which is the time the result of the referendum is likely to endure it’s not much.

    A century from now if we haven’t descended into barbarity or become extinct the major language of New Zealand will be Mandarin


  7. Dave Kennedy says:

    “$26 million over a couple of years is a lot of money, but spread over more than a century which is the time the result of the referendum is likely to endure it’s not much.”

    Ele, while I agree that it is probably an issue that deserves consideration there was no mandate or demand for it and most surveys currently show people are happy with the status quo. The decision to put that much money into this project at the expense of meeting other needs is indefensible. It could be done much more cheaply if referendums are tied to an election and if support was tested first (and proved the majority don’t support a change) it would have saved the considerable expense that has already been committed.

    The flag consultation has been occurring at the same time as the climate change consultation. The advertising for the public meetings for each has been an interesting contrast, heaps for the flag, little for climate change. In Invercargill the climate consultation was organised for 2pm in a venue on the edge of the city. Only 7 attended.

    The flag consultation was promoted throughthe local city council to ensure the meeting was well advertised; at an attractive time and in a nice central city location: http://icc.govt.nz/the-flag-have-your-say/

    In the Climate Change consultation information booklet the total specified spending on climate change initiatives were an annual $10 million on agricultural research and a $42 million lump sum for biofuel research. Our emissions have increased by 13% over the past 6 years. Over the last four years that comes to $20.5 million a year.

    I know some here don’t believe that we should do anything to mitigate the effects of climate change or reduce our emissions and yet it is something that we need to have very real consultation on. The Government must set the targets for the up coming Paris meeting and to get some direction from the people of New Zealand would be highly useful.

    Every conceivable effort and reasonable expense has gone into getting support for a flag change that no one has demanded (and many are strongly against) and there has been a deliberate attempt to discourage and reduce participation in the climate change discussion. This is immoral!


  8. Andrei says:

    there has been a deliberate attempt to discourage and reduce participation in the climate change discussion.

    Rubbish Dave Kennedy – we even have a “Minister for Climate Change Issues”, God help us, Tim Grosser is his name.

    And we have been listening to this quasi religious nonsense since 1998 non stop, to the point of tedium as billions of dollars have been squandered on junk science and activism by our Government alone enriching people like Al Gore and the usual suspects in the process.

    Yes Dave Kennedy the climate is changing but if you seriously think deadbeat, empty headed, chatterers like our political elites can control this I would suggest that you need a brain transplant.

    Hell they haven’t even managed to fix Christchurch after the earthquakes yet a trivial challenge compared to controlling the earths climate, which is actually impossible.

    Its a scam my friend


  9. Dave Kennedy says:

    Andrei, I agree with you on a lot but your denial on the climate change issue is concerning. Even if you don’t believe that the current changes in climate are not man made but are still occurring we are not preparing ahead. For rising sea levels the Government has shifted responsibility to local Authorities and our global policy is that we won’t take a lead, but will follow others like the US. Already California and Texas are paying a heavy price for inaction and the US Government is unlikely to respond strongly.

    Our stand on Nuclear weapons was a catalyst for a change in global thinking but we have come a country that willingly rolls over to pressure from anyone with money. James Shaw asked if the actual legal consequences of the Arab businessman’s threat to sue had been properly explored and McCully responded that it was decided it would be easier just to buy him out (at a cost of over $11 million and growing). We have generally been sucked in by SkyCity, Warner Bros, Rio Tinto and oil companies, we are throwing money, tax breaks and law changes to suit their demands…it’s really sad that we no longer have a backbone or an operating moral compass.

    We are also the little eager partner of the Five Eyes who always respond “how high?” when asked to jump. It appear the spying we did at the behest of the US in the Pacific was probably illegal too.


  10. Andrei says:

    Our stand on Nuclear weapons was a catalyst for a change in global thinking……

    You tool – the powers that had nuclear weapons didn’t want other people to get them because then they couldn’t stand over he people they want to bully with the ones they had and their victims didn’t

    The campaigners for nuclear disarmament just entrenched the power of those that had bombs and were being manipulated by them to help them keep their monopoly.

    Do you think the adulterous bastard that bombed Belgrade would have done so if Belgrade could have lobbed a nuclear missile up his arse?

    You are so naive

    You are being played like a fiddle by vested interests who increase their wealth and power with scary stories about sea level rises……


  11. Dave Kennedy says:

    Andrei, it is you who is deluded, nuclear capability has still spread and hasn’t been captured by a particular power base (India, Pakistan, North Korea). Because of New Zealand’s stand the moral argument for retaining nuclear weaponry has been substantially eroded and it is now rarely described as a tool for peace. ISIS is described as a threat to the world without having to have nuclear weapons. Dropping ‘a bomb’ is no longer considered a viable threat.

    You just have to watch the news to know that the biggest threat of our time is climate change and those who will suffer most (as with most wars) are the less affluent of the world. Already we are seeing the wealthy from overseas buying property in New Zealand as a future climate change haven.

    Climate change presents so many potential economic benefits to our country as well as possible credit for moral leadership on this issue. Instead of capitalising on all the growing markets in clean energy and looking at future (diverse) food needs, this Government has disastrously supported coal and oil and eroded our clean green credentials. We are a sad wee follower of the major polluters, just so that our current Government can revel in the privileges (like a super Koru Lounge) of the corrupt.

    The post I have linked to was supposed to be satirical but I now believe it is close to the truth: http://localbodies-bsprout.blogspot.co.nz/2013/08/big-boys-club-membership-achieved.html


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