Peters scared of Craig

The Queenstown ASB debate between the finance spokespeople for five parties attracted a sell-out crowd last night.


The photo shows, chair Duncan Garner, Finance Minister Bill English for National, Conservative leader Colin Craig, Labour’s David Parker, Act’s Jamie Whyte and Green Russel Norman.

Duncan Garner said that the Maori Party declined the invitation, Mana didn’t reply and New Zealand First leader Winston Peters refused to come if Craig was there.

The chair gave each speaker three minutes to give a pitch then gave them a few questions before taking questions from the floor.

Labour’s trying to campaign on being positive but its finance spokesman started by being negative about the economy and the outlook.

Jamie Whyte started by quoting Adam Smith:

Little else is requisite to carry a state to the highest degree of opulence from the lowest barbarism but peace, easy taxes, and a tolerable administration of justice: all the rest being brought about by the natural course of things.

He also asked who’s going to make better decisions – someone putting their own money at risk in search of profit of someone using other people’s money in search of votes?

Duncan Garner asked him to name one Green policy he agreed with and he said he couldn’t think of one.

The question Duncan Garner put to Russel Norman at the end of his three minutes was whether he could say something good about the Finance Minister and he said he’d been very responsible.

Colin Craig rattled through his policy which includes tax cuts at the lower end.

The chair asked him to say whether he’d go with National or Labour if he had the choice after the election. He said National because the party would have the most votes.

Clutha Southland MP Bill English got the biggest welcome from his home crowd.

He started by giving people the credit for their resilience, responsible and work and how important that was because the economy doesn’t just exist in an office in Wellington, it’s what people do.

That, in partnership with National-led government’s careful management of public finances, had put New Zealand back on the right track.

He said we now have a platform built on our resilience the positive encouragement from government and the most positive Prime Minister New Zealand has had that will allow us to have sustainable growth.

“You have set that direction and we can keep it,” he said.

There’s a video of the debate here.

11 Responses to Peters scared of Craig

  1. Neil says:

    I listened on Radio Live and enjoyed the debate.
    Could hear the support for Bill English. I thought that David Parker dropped the biggest clanger about migra\nts and whether they were high value. The ODT picked it up but the msm let him off, rather focussing on English with his response to Collins and also tax cuts.
    Colin Craig did not impress with his populist bluster and his desire to be liked. However I think he is succeeding in challenging Winston for the nasty know nothing vote.
    Jamie Whyte reminds me of the white shoe brigade with a smart remark for everything.The ACT manifesto at its basic foundation might be right, but I’m afraid it isn’t too attractive to voters in the middle.
    Russel Norman as usual was slippery and certainly no friends of the productive sector with all his new taxes and anti-dairy diatribes.
    Long may we have a debate on the real issues not side shows.


  2. Russel was very well supported by the crowd and dominated the discussions that hurt English the most – TPP, Asset Sales and the dirty politics of the Slater/Key-led National Party. Even Duncan Garner, chummy as ever with English, slated him over his weasel attempts to avoid being frank about the dirty behaviour of his team and especially that of Judith Collins. Key’s brand was further dented by the event, widely broadcast as it was, so it was a good addition to the inevitable fall/fail of the present Government.
    Look, Ele! On topic and without any bad language. To delete this would be to expose an agenda of suppression of opposing voices – you’d not do that, surely!
    [On topic and without any bad language. – You’re finally getting it. I accept a range of views in comments regardless of whether I agree with them. Your comments haven’t been deleted because I disagreed with them but because they were off-topic and/or trolling.]


  3. Thank you, Ele. Having stood beside Bill English on the ‘campaign stage’, I am familiar with his style and that was apparent last night. Of all the candidates, bar perhaps the other-worldly Jamie Whyte, Bill made by far the most un-called-for snide comments about other parties. It’s his style. He got praise for not appearing in “Dirty Politics”, and fair enough – those who did should be ashamed and drummed out of New Zealand politics (they will be, soon), but Bill is not deserving of too much admiration for his behaviour – he runs a constant sniping, ungenerous line against those who cast his claims in a bad light and it’s unbecoming. You’ll probably not be able to see it, as it seems to be par-for-the-corse (golfcorse, Planet Key, you know…) but ordinary New Zealanders can spot arrogance a mile off.


  4. Southern says:

    I don’t think Peters is scared of Craig. I think Peters is a control freak and as he was going to be busy yesterday with the announcement of his party list, he could not send anyone else. Not that he has anyone decent enough to attend.


  5. Mr E says:

    He gets it, Hallelujah!

    I’ve paid more attention to the Greens and their policies than I have Act. Given that Greens have all but alienated themselves from my views, I think I need to pay more attention to Act.

    I’ll spend a little more time, leading up to the election considering them.

    They don’t have an ETS policy this time to win them votes, so I will be interested what they are doing to try and win votes.


  6. I noticed the crowd support given to Bill English when he was introduced. It was as I expected; he’s well known in the area. What surprised me was the enthusiastic reception Russel got when his turn came, and the support from the crowd from that point on, whenever he spoke. If you haven’t listened to the debate, you’ll be disappointed to learn that much of the critical discussion around TPP, asset sales and National’s dirty politics has been replaced by advertisements in the recorded version 🙂
    Yes, Mr E, pay more attention to ACT. They’re your sort of people. Their polls show just how widely their policies are supported by the New Zealand public – less than one percent, is it?
    Sounds about right for you.


  7. Captain Fantastic says:

    Mr Guytons glasses are a rosy tinted pink colour. As I would expect.


  8. JC says:

    What surprised me was the enthusiastic reception Russel got when his turn came””

    So I checked the applause at the introduction of each candidate. Russel and Jamie got the most restrained applause and Craig and English got the lions share of crowd support.

    I liked this part because it spelled no good for the the Greens..

    From the ODT:

    “” Mr Norman had arguably the best-received and most succinct answer of the night.

    Asked why a high-earning adult who decided not to have children should have their tax dollars handed to out-of-work parents who had four to six children, Mr Norman replied: ”Because it’s wrong to punish children for the decision of their parents.”

    That’ll always get a Pavlovian response but not later when people are working out who to trust their tax dollars to.



  9. Your perceptions are way out of whack, JC. In any case, the quote you supplied from the ODT;
    “Mr Norman had arguably the best-received and most succinct answer of the night.” indicates that I am correct in my assessment.
    Best -received. That would be shown by…a positive response from the crowd, and we call that…enthusiastic reception. Russel was enthusiastically received throughout the debate and quite rightly, he was the most adroit with his answers, like all Greens, quick and bright 🙂 Mr Whyte got mocked at one point, when he caught himself out by revealing his failure to grasp the importance, or even existence of AGW. Bill got mildly mocked also, for failing to tell the truth about his party’s unethical behaviour and the need for Key to fire Collins. The crowd laughed at him, caught in the headlights as he was.


  10. scrubone says:

    Robert, did the Green Party’s unethical behaviour come up at any stage?


  11. Mr E says:

    Robert suggests we support parties based on their polling.
    That rules out the Greens… I love it when Green Party member undermine their preferred party.


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