Letting down candidates from start

Labour is letting down its candidates from the start by getting media releases about their selection wrong.

Take this one announcing the candidates for Botany and Pakuranga for example.

The first four paragraphs talk about the process and only then does it get to the candidate, Tofik Mamedov, but still expends more words on the process than him.

It then talks about his nationality and that he’s been campaigning but it doesn’t give any of the biographical details you’d expect, would-be voters would want to know and which might have a chance of being published.

The omission is emphasised because the release carries on to talk about the selection of the party’s candidate for Pakuranga, Barry Kirker, about whom it does give some details.

That release was bad enough, but it compounded its mistake with an even worse one which listed the  two candidates covered in the first release with those for three other electorates – Papakura, Taranaki-King Country and Whangarei.

The party might have no hope of winning these seats but it should be able to give the candidates the dignity of a separate, and comprehensive, media release.

12 Responses to Letting down candidates from start

  1. robertguyton says:

    I should have posted my comments here, Ele, on how you ‘let down’ the new Invercargill National Party candidate “from the start”.
    Your negative politicking has cast a pall over the launch you would no doubt have wanted to have been positive. Slagging-off the Labour candidate was a bad move and if Annette Gunther, long-time Nat supporter, was moved to comment through the newspaper, there will be plenty of other good blue Southlanders who will have pulled their support too.

  2. Mr E says:

    Robert – Are you trolling?

  3. robertguyton says:

    No, Mr E. I’m commenting on-topic (see the title of this post) and making reference to a letter from today’s Southland Times that concerns and names the owner of this blog.
    If you suspect I’m “trolling”, Mr E, please explain how that could be?
    My language is polite, my point valid and my sources easily checked. Interestingly, no one has thought to discuss Ele’s comment or the comment from the loyal (til now) National Party supporter who has publicly expressed her distaste for Ele’s/National’s tactics.
    Do you have a view on those issues, Mr E?
    Or are you trolling?

  4. Mr E says:

    If your comment is “on-topic”, then I am way ‘off the mark’. And in my opinion you are not on-topic.

    You’ve been trying to draw attention to a separate topic. One you have supposedly posted on your own blog.

    Some might say, it is not polite to continually divert discussions. Something that you appear to do on a relatively regular basis. There are definitions that describe that behaviour as trolling.

    I’ll not be drawn in to comment on you off-topic subject – out of politeness to Ele, and other contributors.

  5. robertguyton says:

    You will not comment on criticism of Ele Ludemann, National Party regional chairman (your region, Mr E) because you hope the discussion will die. Fair enough, that’s a time-tested right-wing strategy but you could at least have the spine to own it. Pretending that your fear of talking about the crirticisms from a stalwart National Party supporter in the south that describes a loss of support for the Invercargill candidate because of Ele’s public comments, is because ‘this thread’s not about that, is weak. At least you didn’t merely “shoot the messenger” – Oh, hang on! You did!
    Politeness, my ****

  6. Mr E says:

    “You will not comment on criticism of Ele Ludemann, National Party regional chairman (your region, Mr E) because you hope the discussion will die”

    I defy you to justify that statement. If you can’t, I’d suggest you apologise and retract it.

    “Pretending that your fear of talking about ….”

    Another erroneous statement Robert? I’d suggest you justify that one too – but this could get boring fast. Nobody likes to watch a politician squirm. And besides – Off- topic.

    “At least you didn’t merely “shoot the messenger” – Oh, hang on! You did!”

    Shoot the messenger?
    HA
    HA
    HAAAAAA….!!!!

    Your off-topic Robert and seem to be way off track. How on earth pointing out your diversion from the blog can be construed as “shooting the messenger” is beyond me. Painting yourself as a sensitive pushover politician might cause some people to raise questions.

    My count is 3 from 3. My confidence in Council decisions is not being helped one little bit. I am not sure if I should thank you for that or condemn.

  7. robertguyton says:

    Go on, Mr Enonymous – comment on something that might be off-topic. It won’t kill you to address an issue that concerns the National Party, your electorate and the hostess of this blog. Won’t kill you at all. Just because Ele has declined to post on the negative reaction she generated here in Invercargill from one of her own (ex-chair of the Nats’ Awarua electorate mind!) doesn’t mean the issue is not pertinent. Ele won’t mind, will you Ele? After all, it’s only the second time her name has appeared in ,The Southland Times, so far as I know. It’s interesting. Let’s not try to sweep it under the carpet. Let’s recognise that it’s something that has made the news.
    (Actually, it’s the 3rd time – she got a mention in the article under her husband’s photograph and was described thus:

    “”Onslow View is owned by North-Otago based farmers Grant and Ele Ludemann …It is one of their stable of operations in the South Island that makes up their company EGL Pastoral.”

    Landed gentry?

  8. Mr E says:

    Sure Robert – I’ll head over to your blog. You’ve attached a link on another page (off-topic there too), and no doubt the droves of readers are marching off over there to discuss it. Hold onto your key board – I hope your server has the capacity!

    Oh – Wait a minute. You’ve blocked anons, contrary to the concept of ‘freedom of speech’. Your scenario is – speak freely – as long as your references check out.

    Oh well – I’ll just have to wait for the one of the many blogs that doesn’t block my form of commenting to lodge a post like that. If you hear a funny noise – its probably me taking a deep gasp of air in anticipation.

  9. robertguyton says:

    Don’t be afraid, Mr E.
    There’s no penalty for speaking your mind here, is there?
    Mrs Gunther has severed her long-standing support for the National Party because of something Ele said in public.
    Doesn’t that concern you at all?
    You so often chide me for stating my views openly (see above) but in Ele’s case, you’ve shut up tighter than a clam.
    I’ll take it you approve of Ele’s comment and I’ll take it that you approve of those sort of ‘gutter’ (to use Mrs Gunther’s phrase) methods by the National Party.
    ‘kay?
    (Wonder where Ele stands on this? Haven’t heard from her yet.
    Probably busy. Maybe later this evening.)

  10. Mr E says:

    Not afraid Robert. I continually try to live by my morals and avoid trolling behaviour. For me morals are like a compass. For others they more are kaleidoscope

  11. Gareth says:

    “After all, it’s only the second time her name has appeared in ,The Southland Times, so far as I know. It’s interesting. Let’s not try to sweep it under the carpet. Let’s recognise that it’s something that has made the news.”
    And
    “(Actually, it’s the 3rd time – she got a mention in the article under her husband’s photograph and was described thus:”

    What a thoroughly vindictive, nasty and odious person you are, Mr Guyton.

  12. robertguyton says:

    Yes, yes, odious for asking about a letter criticising Mrs Ludemann, from a National Party stalwart in Invercargill that appeared in today’s paper. Odious.

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