Civics in schools to boost election turn-out?

The government has responded to the Justice and Electoral Select Committee’s report on the 2011 election.

One recommendation, is to ask the Electoral Commission to liaise with the Ministry of Education on the feasibility of ongoing comprehensive civics education in schools.

While I’m loathe to add anything to an already very full curriculum, and whether or not it boosts voter turn out, I think this is a good idea.

We all ought to understand the process and institutions of government and our rights and duties as citizens.

Greater knowledge could lead to greater interest which could increase voter turn out and participation in other areas such as submissions to select committees.


22 Responses to Civics in schools to boost election turn-out?

  1. Viv K says:

    Please explain Ele why New Zealanders should bother putting in submissions to select committees, and the like, when this government usually just ignores them. Submissions re the GCSB bill being the latest example of this.


  2. jabba says:

    Governments don’t run by submissions .. goodness. Same with treasury advice, they listen, consider and decide. Been that way forever


  3. Paranormal says:

    And previous governments always followed what the people wanted – right? The anti-smacking legislation immediately comes to mind…


  4. Andrei says:

    You don’t actually believe that we have a democracy as in “government of the people, by the people, for the people” do you Viv?

    It’s all theater, the ruling elite do what they want and we are kept quiet with the occasional bone they throw us, all the while tightening the screws to keep us under control – e.g. the GSCB bill, allegedly to keep us “safe” but really another tool for them to preserve their own interests.

    This has been not well translated by Interfax
    but from the article “Metropolitan Hilarion believes that Western countries tend to dictatorship”

    “This powerful energy today strives to finally break with Christianity, which controlled its totalitarian impulses during seventeen centuries. Eventually, it unconsciously strives to set up an absolute dictatorship that demands total control over each member of society. Don’t we move to it when “for the sake of security” we agree to obligatory electronic passports, dactyloscopy for everyone, and photo cameras occurring everywhere? All these things can be easily used in other purposes that can also be interpreted as “strengthening security measures,” Metropolitan Hilarion notes.

    Dactyloscopy – fingerprints BTW


  5. Viv K says:

    I would like to know why Ele is in favour of greater citizen participation in the select committee process. Mr Key was reported as doodling and looking bored during the GCSB hearings. Why are you in favour of more people engaging in what appears to be a charade?


  6. Viv K says:

    Still waiting Ele for your response to my question as to why you are in favour of more people making submissions to select committees?


  7. homepaddock says:

    Democracy is supposed to be of, for and by the people not just lobby groups. Select Committees almost always recommend changes to Bills after listening to submissions. They might not go as far as some people would like but they don’t ignore submitters.


  8. Viv K says:

    1 submission in favour of the GCSB bill, over 100 against. Mr Key ignored most submitters, he wasn’t even prepared to pretend to listen to people. If more NZers engage in politics through the select committee submission process, then they too will find out that under the Key government its a farce!


  9. TraceyS says:

    If people are in support of something, they often don’t see the need to make a submission. I am tossing up that choice over something at the moment. It is important that people in support don’t sit back. Their voices are needed to offer balance to criticism.


  10. robertguyton says:

    Ignored them?
    He treated them with disdain.
    One, he even squabbled with and accused of ‘sweating’.
    That’s not how the chair of a hearing is supposed to behave.


  11. Viv K says:

    Come to the rally in the Octagon today Tracey, there will be an ‘open mike’ at some stage where you can voice your support for the GCSB bill. 2pm. Bring all your ‘silent majority’ friends, get them to have their say. Show the rest of us how to be positive and support things and not to be ‘anti’ everything. How about setting up a facebook page for those who support the GCSB bill, show everyone it’s not just the opponents who have thousands of supporters.


  12. TraceyS says:

    Thanks for the offer Viv, but today I will be working on my submission for something closer to home.


  13. TraceyS says:

    I also have a brand new niece to visit, born about 10am 🙂


  14. robertguyton says:

    I can’t be there either, Viv (tyranny of distance) but my daughter will be. It’s a shame we won’t get to hear Tracey speaking up in favour of the bill and the surveillance society it enables. I hope that she will outline her argument here on Homepaddock. Maybe Ele will do the same, unless of course, they are ashamed of what’s happening, or they have no idea what’s going on or why.


  15. Viv K says:

    Lovely news, enjoy your Aunty cuddles with your new family member.


  16. jabba says:

    yet another issue few people care about. So, where was Robert H Guyton when Labour thought up the GCSB bill I wonder. The lefts NBFF, Dotcom, was arrested under the Labour Govts flawed law and he is playing them, and the Gweens of course, like the mugs they are. I also wonder where ALL the others were way back then as well.
    The law is full of holes, this Govt is looking at fixing them and will hold a review in a few years. If we have a Labour/Gween Govt then what will they do I wonder. Labour have already said they will look at it (good grief) and the Gweens will do, well umm errrr, god knows.


  17. jabba says:

    I guess it’s also expensive taking a horse on the ferry bOb


  18. robertguyton says:

    Geography not your strong point, jabs?
    A horse could saunter all the way from Riverton to Dunedin without needing to board a ferry.
    But to give you the benefit of the doubt, maybe you were just ruminating on whether it costs a lot to take a horse on a ferry. Perhaps next you’ll be puzzling over whether it costs a lot to transport a pig in a hot-air balloon, or cow on a gondola?

    Not a lot to do today, jabs?


  19. jabba says:

    Riverton to Akl bOb .. that is where the protest is that you won’t attend. Geeeez
    This morning I was up at 7. Watched some darts on telly then took the dogs for a walk up Kariotahi beach. Came home, did some bike mtce and other chores then my wife took me to Pukekohe (where the masses get the veggies .. non organic of course as the lower paid can’t afford such luxuries) and rode home through dairy country and I thanked every cow that I passed.


  20. Viv K says:

    Protests throughout the country from Dunedin north jabba. Its not just an Auckland issue.


  21. robertguyton says:

    Shhhh, Viv! You’ll scare him. He’s thisclose to tears as it is.


  22. jabba says:

    it’s amazing that hundreds on people are worried that the Govt may spy on them (sigh). I’m more concerned about the hackers playing with peoples twitter/facebook accounts and Email. The Govt have strict rules but the hacking scum have none .. Viv and Robert H Guyton, you can continue to worry about nothing, I will worry about the hackers.


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