Independence Day

It’s the fourth of July here which is Independence Day in the USA, except it’s only July the third there.

It’s still the third in Egypt where a full military coup has ousted President President Mohamed Mursi.

Egypt’s army deployed tanks and troops close to the presidential palace in Cairo on Wednesday after a military deadline for Islamist President Mohamed Mursi to yield to street protests passed without any agreement.

Mursi’s national security adviser said a military coup was under way as armed forces commander General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi met political, religious and youth leaders.

Egypt’s state-run Al-Ahram newspaper reported on its website that the army told President Mohamed Mursi at 7 p.m. (1700 GMT) that he was no longer head of state. It quoted a presidential source.

Meanwhile the state news agency MENA said they would make a joint announcement of a roadmap for a new transitional period and new elections two years after the overthrow of autocratic ex-president Hosni Mubarak in a popular uprising. . .

Hopes were high that the Arab Spring would bring democracy, and prosperity, to Egypt.

Two years later those hopes have yet to be realised.

Happy Independence USA.

Good luck Egypt.

8 Responses to Independence Day

  1. Quintin Hogg says:

    Once again this morning as I digested the herald and listened to what passes for news on TVNZ I reflected that we don’t know how lucky we are to live in NZ.

    On the other side of the moat it is clear that things are not at all good.

    We have to hope that the current careful stewardship of our economy continues to avoid the conflagration in Egypt and the potential conflagrations in the PIGS states were youth unemployment is staggeringly high.


  2. Neil says:

    Egypt is in a very difficult situation. You have a polarised nation with modernists calling for liberal reforms ranging across to fundamentalist Islamists who want Sharia law. The election last year was very close.
    The Morsi government was driving towards an Islamic oriented nation, a bit like Turkey. Religion and politics do not mix
    You have to go to Egypt to realize what a “strange” country it is – you fly down the Nile by plane and see about six miles of deep green then nothing but sand.
    I have also been to Iran and found Egypt as a much stranger place.Iran has greater resources as well as a much better educated population.
    Turkey remains the next nation where this conflict will arise. Kemal Ataturk in the 1920’s created a modern secular Turkey. Now in the Islamist world revolution that is under danger.
    Consider other countries with the same Islamist-non islamist split like Nigeria,Sudan,Phillipenes,Indonesia and parts of Thailand.
    I believe the Obama administratioin has caused a lot of the instability with contradictory stances on the terrorism problem.
    A huge population with its only real resoure is tourism. What is going on certainly does not encourage confidence in that sector. The US embassy is withdrawing all families of staff from Egypt.


  3. tiffany267 says:

    Agreed, and the U.S. also has antagonized not only Egypt but most of the region with its continued military support of Israel (and then hypocritically supporting Syrian rebels – because fuck logic). No one should be supporting any of the sides in that vile part of the world.


  4. Andrei says:

    They have also got the entire South American continent up in arms today – gee the current administration is incompetent beyond belief.


  5. tiffany267 says:


    July 4th, the anniversary of the declaration of a few rich white straight Christian dudes declaring that other rich white straight Christian dudes shouldn’t trample on them. That way they could enslave their wives and black people, murder the indigenous population with impunity, and violently suppress opposition as early as 22 years afterwards (

    The fourth of July is nothing to celebrate here. American freedom is a myth.


  6. tiffany267 says:

    All government is incompetent, by definition.

    Kindly make your comments not in reply to mine so I don’t have to see them in my notifications, kthxbai

    *makes note to self to carry a fly-swatter next time*


  7. Andrei says:

    Nonsense Tiffany for all its faults the USA was the freest place on the planet and its peoples among the most noble.

    But alas the USA has become degenerate – a nation of self absorbed, self indulgent nincompoops who are clueless as to how their prosperity and freedom were won and who are throwing it all away


  8. tiffany267 says:

    You really disgust me, in case you were wondering.

    However, I can how, from the perspective of someone who confuses men beating their children and denying pregnant women autonomy over ***their*** bodies for freedom, the U.S. might look like the bastion of liberty.

    Unfortunately, you are wrong, as I have found that you often are in matters of individual rights.


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