The colour of slime

Green rhymes with clean but it is also the colour of slime and Green co-leader Russel Norman showed the dirty side of his politics in a speech at the weekend comparing John Key to the late Sir Robert Muldoon.

In doing so he reminded us he’s Australian which wouldn’t matter at jot if this comparison didn’t show he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

Karl du Fresne who admits he’s no cheerleader for the current PM and did know the former one well said:

None of the prime ministers we’ve had since Muldoon could be compared with him, for which we should be grateful. He was a vindictive bully who cleverly exploited the politics of fear and division, and never more so than during the 1981 Springbok tour.

In fact I would suggest that in terms of personality, Key is the least like Muldoon. Anyone old enough to remember the political unpleasantness of the late 1970s and early 80s – which probably excludes a lot of Green voters – would have reacted with astonishment to Norman’s bizarre attempt to compare the two men. . .
Norman’s tirade wasn’t just bizarre.
Over at Keeping Stock, Inventory 2 points out it was contrary to his party’s statement of values among which is engage respectfully without personal attacks.
Norman isn’t the first to attack the PM personally – Labour has had several attempts to throw mud at him and each has ended with them looking dirty.
Mud sticks to the hand that throws it and until recently the Green Party had clean hands.
That was one of its strengths and one of the reason the party appealed to some people who might well be National voters, including women for whom environmental concerns are important.
The PM also rates well with women and one of the reasons for that is that he is unfailingly warm, genuinely interested in people and moderate.
Norman showed none of those characteristics at the weekend.
It was a speech which appealed to his dark green adherents but would have been another  turn-off for the floating voters in the middle he needs to convince if he’s to be part of a LabourGreen government.

19 Responses to The colour of slime

  1. robertguyton says:

    Slime, Ele?
    Slime?
    Are you muck-raking, throwing muck at another political party?
    Most ungracious of you.
    If, as you say, green and slime are synonymous, where does that leave your beloved Bluegreens? You are smearing your own team, Ele, had you considered that?
    Your Mr Key slights and insults the Greens, and individual MPs in the House and through the media and not a whisper from you, but when Dr Norman returns fire, you cry ‘slime’?
    Isn’t that rather hypocritical of you, Ele?

  2. TraceyS says:

    Green – the colour of fresh, rapidly growing grass. A source of health according to W A Price who found ‘special’ health factors lurking in it via the produce of animals that graze it.

    Did you know that 500gm of grass contains all the vitamins a human requires in an entire year? Pity we can’t eat it.

    There is nothing healthy or nourishing, however, in the current spat of name-calling.

    I thought John Key did it in a jokey sort of way. It was quite shallow which made it funnier and easy to move beyond. A lot of people would have had a wee chuckle and then got on with the dinner.

    To turn around and launch a structured and calculated personal attack is – despicable. Certainly delivers nothing of an uplift for those of us who just like a wee laugh at the end of a hard day now and then.

    Btw Robert – I notice that your own ‘digs’ (and that’s being generous to you) at the PM often elicit NO COMMENTS. Perhaps the readers of your blog have a little more respect and decency.

  3. robertguyton says:

    Russel was forthright in his condemnation of Key and his Muldoonish behaviours. The most recent Roy Morgan poll reflects this closely. I wonder, Tracey, if you watch Parliament on the telly and see and hear Key’s spiteful attacks on various Green MPs and think those are a bit of a giggle? Perhaps you do. I suspect you do. You seems to see the world through a different lens than I do but there are commonly accepted limits to joking behaviour and Key steps over them regularly when attacking those who oppose him.
    Me, I don’t mind. After all, it’s politics but I do look askance at people like you and Ele who seem unaware of their own prejudices.
    As to the comments not on my posts, I always take them as support for what I’ve said – a resounding, “Good on you!”, is what I hear in the silence. Also, I receive a lot of supportive emails in the background 🙂

  4. TraceyS says:

    With all due respect Robert, you’re being two-faced.

    You’ve put yourself in a position where if you deny that, you prove it.

    😦

  5. Roz says:

    Norman would’ve been in K Mart branded short pants when Muldoon was PM, so I’d say he’s working to a handful of notes slipped to him by “Clint.”
    I’ve kept a casual eye open for any statements from the Greens, that are even partially positive lately. There are practically none. Normans twitter posts are like a mini GCSB update of what Johns’ done now!! They’re fixated with him at the detriment of any policy whatsoever – bar, their mad Power Cut concept with Labour. I think the proverbial worm turned a short time back – committed Nat voters have been looking for a possible & more palatable alternative I feel. The Greens have totally missed that signal and have just continued to bag business, bag progress & create issues where there are none. Sadly the media lap this up due to their rapidly decreasing I.Q. and a rapidly growing sheepish mentality of follow the leader. God help us next year should the worst happen. Then you’ll see an exodus

  6. Gravedodger says:

    Robert, as always never one to let truth get in the way of your warped vision of the facts.

    John Key is very careful to attack the party, the policy and the dogma wheras in spite of #6 of the greenpeace sorry I meant Green party rules about respect blah de blah, the little aussie ginga went on to compare Key to Muldoon while alluding to wild allegations as to probity and trust. Mr Key’s published response to this change of tactics by wussel is yet another example.

    Such negativity has been clearly a failure for Labour for nearly a decade so I assume Abnormal’s adoption of the Mallard theory of political advance only betrays his desperation and his naivity.

    Clearly when doing his Phd on ” the Alliance” he didn’t go back to Muldoons reign of terror.
    One long standing Nat when questioned why he went to Rob’s last rites replied “to make certain the lid was securely closed”.
    Robert David Muldoon was not the most liked person in the National Party in the 70s and 80s and I have heard from reasonably trusted information, Mr Aussie Norman inspite of his role is not that loved by many grassroots members of his party either.

    Wussel’s latest effort to “120” members may support that rumor.

    Whereas John Key ————?
    Check a few other polls on matters beyond electoral support, say economic management, health services, crime, prisons, job creation, business confidence, even assisting children of dropkick parents to get a couple of weetbix and some milk at school.

    The coalition from hades is not making the progress the vandals had hoped for, too bad, so sad.

    BTW what ever happened to the selfimposed exile? another GP falsehood or just a flipflop, whatever.

  7. robertguyton says:

    Exodus, Roz? See ya!
    Tracey, your comment makes no sense at all.
    The ‘coalition from Hades’, Gravedodger?
    National, Act, UnitedFuture, Maori Party?
    I would say they reside in the Underworld, GD, more Disneyland, wouldn’t’cha say?
    My self-imposed exile, being self-imposed, can be self-unimposed, surely?
    I’m back.
    Nah, just kidding.
    Maybe.
    You call Russel, ‘Abnormal’?
    Aren’t you cute! Opposed to ad hom, are we? Only when the ‘other side’ use it, eh, old chap?

  8. robertguyton says:

    Meant ‘wouldn’t say’

  9. TraceyS says:

    OK Robert, you wrote “…people like you and Ele who seem unaware of their own prejudices.”

    You assume that you know what those prejudices are. You assume that there is a lack of awareness.

    Frequently you pull others up for assuming to know your “beliefs”. I’ll not bother referencing as you’ll find evidence on your blog.

    Or are all such issues sub judice before the great judge whose name is Robert?

  10. robertguyton says:

    “You assume” – exactly, Tracey, hence my use of the word ‘seem’.
    Your point is still obscure to me. In any case, it’s off-thread and boring 🙂

  11. TraceyS says:

    How do you know my point is “off-thread and boring” if it’s obscure to you?

  12. robertguyton says:

    I’m reluctant to make it even more boring and continue the off-thread path you’ve set, Tracey but now you’ve begun to repeat yourself, making it even worse; more off-topic and more boring! Let’s get back to the topic, old chum! Ele’s muck-slinging.

  13. TraceyS says:

    Alright, in an attempt to be back on topic. Why is Jeanette asking for donations today instead of Russel? Done his own image a bit of a blow lately has he? Smeared himself in muck and now stinks.

    Yes, I think people would be far more willing to give money to Jeanette’s request. Good marketing strategy. Well done.

  14. robertguyton says:

    Thanks. The Greens are very, very good at strategy. As for donating to Jeanette – who wouldn’t?

  15. TraceyS says:

    Strategy? Will believe it when I see it.

  16. robertguyton says:

    You can’t see it, so won’t believe it.

  17. robertguyton says:

    But I have to ask, if you don’t believe the Greens strategise well, why did you say,
    ” Good marketing strategy. Well done.”
    You okay?

  18. Armchair Critic says:

    I think you transposed your “can’t” and your “won’t”, robert.

  19. TraceyS says:

    Yes I’m fine. A little tired. But thank you for asking.

    Sorry for the misunderstanding. When you said “strategy” I thought you meant strategy of the meaningful kind.

    Marketing strategy is just about promotion, selling things, increasing donations, membership, and those sorts of things.

    National has a meaningful strategy for the country.

    Whoops, there I go showing my prejudice all dressed up as a carefully considered observation.

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