NZ best place to break glass ceiling

The Economist complied a chart for International Women’s Day and found that women in New Zealand have the best chance of equal treatment at work.

. . . Based on data mainly from the OECD, it compares five indicators across 26 countries: the number of men and women respectively with tertiary education; female labour-force participation; the male-female wage gap; the proportion of women in senior jobs; and net child-care costs relative to the average wage. The first four are given equal weighting, the fifth a lower one, since not all working women have children. New Zealand scores high on all the indicators. Finland does best on education; Sweden has the highest female labour-force participation rate, at 78%; and Spain has the smallest wage gap, at 6%. The places not to be are South Korea and Japan, partly because so few women hold down senior jobs (though the new president of South Korea is a woman).

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14 Responses to NZ best place to break glass ceiling

  1. TraceysS says:

    Women in Senior Management Roles – gloom gathers below glass ceiling:*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1%2Egmp_4649853%2Egde_4649853_member_22070928 – thanks to Geena Kumar from Straterra for the link)

    From a report to mark International Women’s Day:

    “Having once been a world leader in the number of women in senior management roles in business, New Zealand is now dropping back to the pack and the outlook continues to get gloomier, according to the latest research from Grant Thornton.”

    “So it is a conundrum. New Zealand women are more educated than they have ever been, yet the numbers holding down senior management positions is static at best and starting to be overtaken by the rest of the world.”

    Why do we need more women in senior management? Because “… research shows is that it is good practice, and those regions adopting it are currently outperforming those who aren’t”.


  2. Richard says:

    This is good news. But is not good enough,in my view. Have sat on the Board’s of a number companies both private and government with women as Directors.
    (Why did I start this post? – I could be in trouble.).
    I have found that women have an extraordinary eye for detail in, for example, financial reports. Men focus on the bigger picture but are brought back by the need to look at the detail — getting into all sorts of trouble here – ah— dinner is on the table, started by me—


  3. TraceyS says:

    Women have to be more dedicated than their male peers or they wouldn’t reach senior management or governance positions in the first place.

    That has to be good for the companies involved.


  4. Andrei says:

    LOL – this has only been acheived by feminizing education and making it hard for boys to suceed by squashing them from their ECE days onwards.

    Look on the campus of any university. Did you know that two thirds of those entering the legal profession are women, same with accounting. Four out of five entering the New Zealand public service are women in these days of wonder. Ninteen out of Twenty entering Primary education are female and so forth.

    And it benefits the glass ceiling breakers for sure but most of these professional women will not break e glass ceilings but end up doing dreary jobs in dreary offices for most of their days before waking up when it is too late and wonder where their lives went.

    And as for the non professional women, well they will spend their lives stacking super market shelves but if they have retained their common sense they will end their days surrounded by hordes grandchildren – the ones who haven’t followed the glass ceiling breakers lead and contracepted their own offspring into non existence or worse yet aborted them lest they get in the way of climbing the ladder to “success”.

    For boys there is always the infantry provided they don’t mind being led into battle by lesbian infantry officers.


  5. TraceyS says:

    Are you making a case for Charter Schools that focus on the things that boys are really interested in? Things that will lead them into careers that are not teaching, not being lawyers, not being public servants?


  6. Andrei says:

    Here Tracey is an example of the ubiquitous misandry that modern boys will encounter in their education.

    This I found by chance in an article that only peripherally has anything to do with why schools are failing boys, which they are.


  7. TraceyS says:

    Thank you very much for the article Andrei. You have great timing! I am part of an informal group which meets regularly to discuss challenges that such children face in education and other parts of life, but mainly education because this is where they encounter most of their troubles. We are meeting tomorrow and I will take some copies of the article along.

    Interestingly, the people taking part in this group are manly mothers of boys. Almost all have university degrees and the highest proportion of those have either a masters or Phd. I have often reflected that this must be one of the most well-educated informal meetings of women in the country! All are very interested in helping their own and others children to succeed and are well-placed to do so. Yet so often the children don’t get the things they need at school to do well. Some parents have even been told by teachers that their child is not terribly bright or capable, even in the face of formal test results conducted by an international expert based in New Zealand.

    It’s a worry if our education system can’t recognise talent. I guess that’s why I’m so open to anything else that looks like it might…


  8. TraceyS says:

    Oops, *mainly. We are definitely not the manly types!


  9. Andrei says:

    I notice Tracey you avoided comment on the subtle misandry in that example I posted.

    A couple of points on your reply

    (1) As you noted the kids you are discussing are mostly boys Hmmmm

    (2) Your focus is on developing people for higher academia and not on the schools producing well adjusted to live a fruitful and fullfilling life on this planet

    It is almost QED for the points I was making – Schhools are tailored to produce girls who will aspire to professional careers and is failing just about everyone else – especially in important life skills


  10. TraceyS says:

    The cartoon is featured in the article you posted because it represents a task that children on the autistic spectrum would have difficulty with. Not because it somehow shows an example of man-hating.

    (1) Yes
    (2) No, but academic skills do matter.

    Do you also think that single-sex boys schools are also “tailored to produce girls who will aspire to professional careers”?


  11. Andrei says:

    Tracey I know what that cartoon was used to illustrate in that story, which, no surprise, was not written by a male.


    I used it to show the subtle misandry that boys are subject to from kindergaten onwards in school – do you see that?

    Even the so called “autism spectrum” disorders which effect boys, five to one, with respect to girls maybe in most cases just medicalizing male ways of thinking.

    Same with the even more common ADHD which boys are far more likely to be diagnozed with and then drugged to make them more compliant in the classroom.

    It is a modern heresy that males and females differ only in their plumbing and to make it appear valid you are squashing masculinity and masculine virtues.

    Anyway as anyone with brains knows Western civilization is in its indian summer and your kids and mine will face a very nasty reality check before they die, maybe you will live to see it too.


  12. TraceyS says:

    Your point is lost on me Andrei. I grew up in a small rural community where it was just me in my year at school and five boys the next year down. So I had no choice but to play with the boys and do all the things that they did, including games like “bull-rush” (banned now). We also had a male teacher. My Dad would have liked two sons, but only had one. So in spite of being a blatant sexist who believed that women in the workforce were taking the jobs away from men, I became the quasi-son, going fishing, hunting, raising bobby calves, and all that. After leaving school I went to work in male dominated industries and still do. A woman wanting to be part of traditionally male spheres of activity is not “squashing masculine virtues” any more than is a man taking a more active role in the raising of his children squashing feminine virtues.


  13. Andrei says:

    ……. including games like “bull-rush” (banned now)

    QED 🙂


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