Dump MMP or change it?

A media release from the Business Council for Sustainable Development says a poll shows most of us support changing from MMP.

Thirty eight per cent say they will vote to change to a different voting system and 32% to retain the current MMP one while 26% remain undecided, according to a new nationwide ShapeNZ survey of 2,261 New Zealanders.

When the undecided are invited to specify which option they most lean towards at present, the desire for change becomes firmer. The country then votes  46.6% for change from MMP  37.5% to retain the current MMP system.

After applying leanings, the number of undecided falls from 26% to 11.9%.

The BCSD concludes its release by saying:

The Business Council does not have a policy view on MMP reform. It commissions ShapeNZ to provide the public with an opportunity to contribute to policy making.

The Campaign for MMP, as it’s name implies, does have a policy view on MMP and its take on the same poll is that a modified MMP would be broadly supported.

“Campaign for MMP recognises that many people who support MMP want to change it in some way, and we have strongly supported the government’s initiative to commit to an independent review of MMP.”

“The ShapeNZ survey shows people regard the performance of MMP as better to the old First Past the Post. We think most people don’t want to dump MMP, they want to make it better.”

“The critical message that needs to get out in the lead up to next year’s referendum is that a vote for MMP in 2011 is a vote for setting up a process to improve it,” Sandra Grey said.

This is cart before horse territory.

Voting for a system because you want to change it comes with the risk that you won’t like the changes.

6 Responses to Dump MMP or change it?

  1. dave says:

    This is cart before horse territory.

    So are you saying that we should announce a modification of MMP and have a referendum on modified MMP against another electoral system?


  2. Sinner says:

    The BCSD result is interesting because it is a Labour Front Organisation (i.e. it is basically communist).

    Surprised they want to dump MMP: no other electoral system would have given us Labour governments for most of the last 10 years.

    With any luck, we will adopt a proven electoral system to drive the NZ economy forward – something like Geographical Proportionality with Nett Taxpayer Franchise


  3. This is cart before horse territory.

    Perhaps. But it ain’t the Campaign for MMP who put it there, but the Referendum Bill currently before Parliament. Only if MMP wins the first vote will the Electoral Commission review of MMP go ahead.


  4. Allan says:

    How about a system which states that those who do not contribute should have no say in how the country is run, ie if you are on a benefit such as unemployment, sickness or even the DPB which would be tested on a case by case basis, for longer than say a year you would not be eligible to vote. At least this type of system would
    ensure that only those who actually participate and pay taxes will be the ones whose wants are heeded and catered for instead of the pandering to the welfare recipients and bludgers of society that the current system is doing.


  5. pdm says:

    Allan what about all of those middle class families that Labour turned into beneficiaries with Working For Families?

    Are you going to stop them from voting too? When you take out superannuitants as well there won’t be many left to vote.

    By the way I favour STV.


  6. homepaddock says:

    Dave – unfortunately it’s too late for that, the bill before the house will put the system as it is against alternative methods.


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