If Goff can’t who can?

It’s not impossible for Labour to win the next election with Phil Goff as leader.

What those of us in the blue ranged of the spectrum would regard as a disaster and those in the red range might call a miracle, could happen. But it is unlikely.

That begs the questions: If Labour can’t win with Goff as leader, could it win with anyone else in that very hot seat?

The Australian Labor Party is ahead in the polls after a change of leader, but it wasn’t battling the 20 point gap with Labour does here.

That gap could narrow but it is unlikely to close altogether – with or without a different leader.

Even Labour insiders are admitting that. Trevor Mallard said on Focus on Politics last night (starting at 6:16):

No-one in caucus that I know thinks that anyone could do a better job than Phil has done. I think many of us know it’s going to be hard to win the next election. But it’s possible and Phil is the person who can do that and no-one else can.

When a senior MP says that Labour’s unlikely to win and if Goff can’t lead Labour to an election victory no-one else it’s hardly likely to inspire voter confidence in the party regardless of whoever is leading it next year.

14 Responses to If Goff can’t who can?

  1. Adolf Fiinkensein says:

    The very latest polls from Australia make pretty dismal reading for Labor. Don’t be surprised to see Abbott pull off the unthinkable victory.

    Mind you, this does not mean that Labour has any show here in 2011. We have MMP partly to thank for that.

  2. Inventory2 says:

    Let’s look at the candidates in descending order:


    If I were a Labour supporter (PTL I’m not!), I’d find that list somewhat depressing.

  3. robertguyton says:

    From the quote you provided, Mallard says that “it’s going to be hard to win the next election. But it’s possible.”
    You reframe that with his saying that “Labour’s unlikely to win.”
    That is not the same thing.
    Mallard also says, “It’s possible and Phil is the person who can do that and no-one else can.”
    I think you are mistaken to think that Mallard’s message won’t be received well by Labour supporters.
    It’s an encouraging statement.

  4. Andrei says:

    Hey ho hey ho

    More tribalism – the National tribe is in the ascendancy after nine years of Labour ascendancy. And basking in their new found glory.

    Sooner or later the Labour tribe will once again rule because scum always floats to the top and then National again.

    What does any of this mean for the poor long suffering peasantry struggling to earn a living.

    Diddly – because there is diddly difference between the two ruling tribes.

  5. Inventory2 says:

    @ Robert – so you’re endorsing Mallard et al’s attacks on Carter’s state of mental health then?

  6. Adolf Fiinkensein says:

    IV2, I think Mallard is pretty much spot on. Carter’s actions are not those of a sane,loyal Labour man. That’s all. Carter is playing a longer game and so far is losing badly. Is he mentally unbalanced? I think yes but the evidence for that has been around for a long long time as evinced by his addiction to travel paid for by others.

    So if carter is simply stating what has been obvious for some time, then so is Mallard.

    Good God! I never thought I would find myself springing to the defense of Trevor Mallard.

  7. Inventory2 says:

    @ Adolf – I don’t disagree with your assessment on Carter. I just find it a bit odd that Mallard was shedding tears for Carter on Thursday afternoon, but has now recovered sufficiently to kick him on the ground!

  8. Endorse? Didn’t mention them Ele.

  9. homepaddock says:

    I didn’t ask if you did,Robert, that was Inventory 2.

  10. Inventory2 says:

    It was indeed Ele; Robert said “I think you are mistaken to think that Mallard’s message won’t be received well by Labour supporters.
    It’s an encouraging statement.”

    I just had to mischievously ponder whether Robert was including this:

    “Chris Carter is “unbalanced” and under pressure over international travel costs, says senior Labour MP Trevor Mallard.

    “He’s always been a bit eccentric – we all knew that – but he’s been a bit, what I would say, unbalanced,” Mr Mallard told Radio New Zealand this morning.”

    Is THAT an encouraging statement for Labour supporters as well? 😉

  11. robertguyton says:

    Sorry Ele, shouldn’t blog while between serving customers!
    Inventory2, you mischevious imp you!
    I say what I mean and I mean what I say.

  12. Inventory2 says:

    Imp? You haven’t seen my waist-line Robert 🙂

  13. Inventory2 says:

    Nearer the mark …

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