Road to Athens paved with good intentions

The road to Athens is paved with good intentions, Finance Minister Bill English, told the National Party annual conference.

Evidence of how our economy could be be like Greece’s was portrayed in a graph which showed the net increase in jobs from 2002.

There was no net increase in jobs in agriculture and manufacturing in that period, they all came from the expansion of government spending, property boom and consumption fuelled by borrowing.

The previous administration’s tax and spend policies did absolutely nothing for real growth.

That is why this government is reining in public sector spending and addressing issues which hamper productivity.

He told us there would be no big-bang initiatives. The aim was for steady and broadly supported policies which over four or five years will make a real difference.

I’m very keen to give him the time to achieve that.

14 Responses to Road to Athens paved with good intentions

  1. Andrei says:

    Well Bill English can mouth off all he wants.

    If a beneficiary pulled the stunt he pulled with his mansion they would end up before the court with a pompous judge looking down his or her snoot lecturing them on honesty them as they are convicted of fraud.

    Being a rich and powerful man with rich and powerful friends Mr English’s scam gets swept under the rug with a bit of hand waving and he utters platitudes about cutting back Government spending.

    I mark this as Fail


  2. And I mark Andrei’s comment as a Pass.


  3. Gravedodger says:

    Mr English represented his deep south electorate well enough to get endorsed by his party and well enough to get re-elected by enormous majorities.
    As his responsibilities to his Party and subsequently our government grew, being a sensible and loyal family man he chose to bring his family to Wellington to enable as near to normal a family life to continue in the pressure cooker that is politics.
    This he did within the rules pertaining to all M Ps and until the shrills in the MSM, in the light of serious rorting of the MPs system in the UK, to try and splatter mud over those NZ MPs they had become used to denigrating during the Clark years, to suggest that Mr English was doing something illegal when in fact it wasn’t but was only seen as a rort in the light of the UK fiasco.
    For anyone to continue to portray the subsidy as a dishonest act is at best disingenuous and at worst desperate politics.
    The Rt Hon Ms Clark’s railroading of Commissioner Doone and the several acts that were described as possible illegal acts that were not in the public interest to prosecute were in my estimation far more worthy of serious judicial review than Mr English’s entirely legal housing actions.


  4. GraveDodger! You do comedy!
    That’s a real belly-wobbler, your Defence of Double-Dipton – classic!
    Down here in the South, it’s commonly said that a huntaway would get elected if it was put up as the National candidate.
    Mr English!
    Spilled m’coffee!


  5. Tired Farmer says:

    Good comments by Gravedodger—-but throughout life I have seen many family orientated folk juggle their own family and business lives while working voluntarily for many good causes.
    On the committee that originally chose Bill as our candidate,it is interesting that at our latest series of Clutha Southland meetings more members are querying the Nats performance and policies.

    Nick Smith’s ETS meeting in Gore 15/7/10, which was an insult in regards to only one hours time allowed and facing the public two weeks after the legislation was
    enacted ensured him of an enquirying audience.

    TV3 on demand via computer under Politics 16/7/10 shows short coverage of this event

    It is an interesting point that the ETS tax applies to Aviation Fuel used within NZ but not on overseas flights.

    —Um—who is the Minister of Tourism?


  6. JC says:

    I was pleased to see English reiterate that there will be no “big bang” policies.. just a steady move towards export and manufacturing growth and a slow curtailment of Govt spending.

    The NZ electorate does not respond well to extreme policy without a clear agreement that its needed, and the best feature of the Govt to date is of the nature that “if you want it, you must either pay for it or give up something else”.

    The other thing English needs to work hard on is getting us all to reduce personal debt. From memory it was $60 billion in 1999 and its now $170 billion.. that’s almost as paralyzing as having it on the Govt’s books.



  7. homepaddock says:

    Your criticism of policies is fair comment your personal attacks on Bill aren’t.

    You may not like the rules but what he did was within them, he checked and got an okay and got on with focussing on what matters – getting the country on the right track.

    When the fuss arose he accepted that even though he was within the rules it wasn’t a good look, he paid back what he’d received and now claims nothing – although he could which means he is well out of pocket.

    Bill has the largest general electorate in the country, he’s deputy PM & Finance Minister does all that well.

    RG your huntaway comment is amusing but glosses over the hard work Bill ddid and continues to do to earn and retain the support of his constituents.

    TF – It may be little comfort to you that the ETS is far less costly than Labour’s which it replaced.
    No-one will support everything this or any other government does, but National’s policies are doing far more good for NZ than any other’s would.


  8. Homepaddock – yes Bill does as much work down here as he is able. I like the man, having spent some time in his company on a number of occasions. I don’t like much of his politics at all, though his thinking around Maori was good. Doesn’t have a clue about ‘greening the economy’ or any ‘green’ issue for that matter.
    You too, it seems, have been taken in by the spin around Bill’s housing ‘entitlements’. No matter.
    Your comment to TF about the ETS is stock standard Nat spin too. The ‘Labour’s was twice as expensive’ line is bs when you look at who has to pay under National. It’s us taxpayers, not the business and industries that would have had to shell out under Labour. Both ETS’s are rubbish anyway.
    I’m interested that you think my comments are ‘personal attacks’.
    Jibes more like.


  9. Btw – Key used the ‘double-dipping’ phrase this morning on the telly.


  10. haggis says:

    The Haircut.

    One day a florist went to a barber for a haircut.

    After the cut, he asked about his bill, and the barber replied, ‘I cannot accept money from you , I’m doing community service this week.’ The florist was pleased and left the shop.

    When the barber went to open his shop the next morning, there was a ‘thank you’ card and a dozen roses waiting for him at his door.

    Later, a cop comes in for a haircut, and when he tries to pay his bill, the barber again replied, ‘I cannot accept money from you , I’m doing community service this week..’ The cop was happy and left the shop.

    The next morning when the barber went to open up, there was a ‘thank you’ card and a dozen donuts waiting for him at his door.

    Then an MP came in for a haircut, and when he went to pay his bill, the barber again replied, ‘I can not accept money from you. I’m doing community service this week.’ The MP was very happy and left the shop.

    The next morning, when the barber went to open up, there were a dozen MP’s lined up waiting for a free haircut.

    And that, my friends, illustrates the fundamental difference between the citizens of our country and the politicians who run it.



  11. pdm says:

    RG – The so called `double dipping’ of Bill English is small bikkies compared to that of Jandetrton who takes a leaders payout for a prty of one.

    The appalling thing is that it is `within the rules’ and nobody is doing anything about those rules.

    John Key and Bill English acted quickly and decisively to rectify the English situation.


  12. pdm – small bikkies?
    That’s okay then. Bill’s clean. Nothing to see here.
    Someone else did worse. Not a Nat. Quickly and decisively. Surgically. Top men. No rorting from the Blue team. Look over there! Anderton!@%*&%.


  13. pdm says:

    RG – listen up and listen good.

    Bill English took some legal entitlements under the rules at the time. When the UK rorting blew up John Key took action and Bill English voluntarily paid a considerable slice of money back to Parliamentary Services and stopped taking any further payments. This was money he was under no obligation to repay.

    Janderton just continues to rort the system with no indication of any embarrassment whatsoever. What he is doing is also lwithin the rules but it is morally repugnant.


  14. pdm – I don’t care about Anderton’s case.

    “This was money he was under no obligation to repay.”



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