How close does Labour want to get to Greens?

Trans-Tasman asks an interesting question: how cosy will Labour and the Greens remain?

Labour’s relationship with the Greens is one of the most intriguing elements in the current Parliament. The assumption on the Left has been they are close allies certain to form the next Govt. But when it comes to the point, how far will Labour go in accepting Greens’ fundamental credo the interests of the environment rate ahead of economic development? Taking a cue from the debate now raging in Aust. . .  In NSW last week general secretary Sam Dastyari launched a scathing attack on the Greens, labelling them as “extremists, not unlike One Nation” and said he will move a resolution at the NSW Labor conference urging the party to consider giving preferences to the Greens last at the Federal election.

Julia Gillard agreed with Dastyari’s stance, saying she stands by a controversial speech she gave in April last year in which she said the Greens do not value family or work. In NZ, former PM Helen Clark steadfastly refused to include the Greens within her Cabinet during her 9 years in office. The difficulty for Labour now is whether its new leadership team has the political “smarts” Clark displayed in keeping the Greens at bay while she pursued unalloyed Labour goals.

Commentators keep pointing out that National doesn’t have many coalition partners. Labour has a potential one in the Green Party, but would they want to share the government benches with them?

MMP is designed to prevent one party getting a majority. It also puts the power in the middle which leaves Labour with a conundrum. The Green Party will take votes from its left but it could just as well scare voters from the centre who have genuine concern for the environment but not as a sugar coating for extreme left economic and social policies.

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6 Responses to How close does Labour want to get to Greens?

  1. robertguyton says:

    You misunderstand the situation, Ele and the Transtasman isn’t going to enlighten you at all as to the thinking of Labour or the Greens. Their commentaries are regularly off-target pish.
    You ask, would Labour want to share the government benches with the Greens? The answer is blindingly obvious to all but the blinkered blue-bloods (and the Transtasman). Would the voters be scared by the prospect, you also ask? Again, the answer is plain. Your nasty crew :-) will do all they can to smear the Greens and frighten the public as the election nears, but I believe you will fail to do so. The Greens have been the voice of reason around the many, many shifty dealings your party has embroiled itself in during its term and a bit, and when they begin their attacks on the Greens, it’s not going to resonate the way you expect and will instead, strengthen the confidence New Zealanders have in a party that knows and acts upon the need for balancing a genuinely healthy environment with economic activities. Your Nats give lip-service to a version of that but people can see that you do the opposite – drill baby drill is a lable you are not going to be able to shake off, nor will you get away with selling the crown jewels, sneaky deals with casinos, having stained support parties like the John Banks party and the duplicitous Dunne party as your ‘friends’. You’re done.
    And with that, I’m done :-)

  2. fredinthegrass says:

    Well Done I would say Rg. Done for dinner too. Your reasoning is beyond comprehension – as usual – but for a Friday provides a wee tad of light relief at the end of the week. Do enjoy your weekend.

  3. jabba says:

    “The Greens have been the voice of reason” .. oh my god

  4. Richard Watts says:

    The fundamental question of the Greens is really ‘can we keep doing this?’. Would you buy a farm with a 25 year mortgage if you didn’t know if you could still farm it in 15? There is no real problem with the Greens working with any party so long as they are willing to accept the answer to that question, whatever it may be.

    Sustainability and consistency are words you can take to your bank manager and borrow against. I don’t see how this core message is necessarily anti-business or prosperity. The yearly oil price for instance has quadrupled, but are we really shedding any tears over the lost opportunity to sell oil at $20 U.S.D. a barrel instead of $80-100? Wait doesn’t have the same meaning as never.

  5. robertguyton says:

    Fred – I put your inability to follow my explanations down to lead and the proximity of your home to a motorway. Don’t worry though, you’ll have forgotten all this by morning.

  6. robertguyton says:

    Jabba – you’ve taken it too far – the Greens are not your God. Overlords, yes and soon enough, but Deities? Not really (don’t mean to upset you).

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